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#1 aprhartman

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 01:33 PM

Does anybody have any experience using handheld IR of FTIR scanners for quality checks on raw materials or finished products? My company is interested in purchasing one and we want to know what kind of information it will give us/what it's practical use will be?

 

Here's a link to the kind of scanner I'm talking about

http://www.chem.agil...s/default.aspx#



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 02:18 PM

I don't have any information, but I am following this thread with interest.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 02:52 PM

I found this, which is really cool: http://www.consumerp...myscio/scio.htm Pocket IR scanner that uploads the spectrum to a cloud and gives you back information about whatever you are scanning in real time. I guess this is good because it is continuously building a database of matter that is accessible to anyone as opposed to you having to build your own database based on your raw materials and products. But how can I use this information to assess quality is what I want to know. 



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:10 PM

Well you have to know what quality parameters you need to look at and what the appropriate deviation is for that quality parameter before you start looking at equipment.  Then you chose equipment that will test what you need tested within the appropriate level of deviation.  So only you can really decide what information you need and if a piece of equipment is going to give you the results you can interpret.

 

You need to look at the literature available for the product and see if it tests parameters that you need checked be it moisture, ash, protein, etc.

 

Also you have to find out from the company if it will work with your type of material.  Something that is certified for wheat, for example, may not be certified for flour, bran or germ.  Also find out if they are certified by an accreditation body for testing your material.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:17 PM

We would be using it to make sure our incoming raw materials meet the product specifications we are given from the companies. Basic tests like color analysis, moisture, sugar content, on materials like flour, cornmeal, spices. 



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:26 PM

I'll say I looked through the page a little and a little of their literature and I don't see a clear list of things it'll test. 

 

My honest suggestion is to contact the company and explain to one of their customer service reps what you do and what you are looking for.  Then tell them you saw their product and ask if what it'll do what you need.

 

That's where I'd start.


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 11:28 AM

I think, out of the lists of test given, only moisture analysis can be performed using IR scanner.

 

Depending on the raw material type and moisture content (Total/bound/free) the appilcability of the instrument for this specific purpose needs to be checked with the manufacturer.


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 01:34 PM

Does anybody have any experience using handheld IR of FTIR scanners for quality checks on raw materials or finished products? My company is interested in purchasing one and we want to know what kind of information it will give us/what it's practical use will be?

 

Here's a link to the kind of scanner I'm talking about

http://www.chem.agil...s/default.aspx#

 

 

I found this, which is really cool: http://www.consumerp...myscio/scio.htm Pocket IR scanner that uploads the spectrum to a cloud and gives you back information about whatever you are scanning in real time. I guess this is good because it is continuously building a database of matter that is accessible to anyone as opposed to you having to build your own database based on your raw materials and products. But how can I use this information to assess quality is what I want to know. 

 

Hi there,

 

Looks like it could be useful but I would like to see a demo before I purchased.

 

You 2nd link doesn't work for me, please can you check it.

 

Regards,

 

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 06:55 AM

 i am susing diferrent type of IR SCAner, my tools using NIR (Near Infra REd) system. as my experinece that tools run well and can help us to cut time and cost 

 

 

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