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Poll: Are you happy with your job? (301 member(s) have cast votes)

Are you happy with your job?

  1. I'm delighted with it (41 votes [13.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.62%

  2. I am happy, even though it has its annoyances (130 votes [43.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.19%

  3. It pays the rent (28 votes [9.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.30%

  4. I'm not happy, but not unhappy enough to make a change (34 votes [11.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.30%

  5. I'm not happy at all and thinking about what to do next (62 votes [20.60%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.60%

  6. Other (6 votes [1.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.99%

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#51 Simon

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 08:32 PM

Thanks all

 

GMO-chin up, you're good at your job and because of that, you needn't stay and feel brow beaten!

 

We do need a Cannabis forum.............i took said job because here (Canada/Ontario) massive changes are underway and edibles will be legal tentatively, come October of this year. So with my work experience, it seemed like a nice way to transition. Plus that industry is paying a lot more than the food biz ever will!

 

Hi Scampi, you're a great member here and we'd be happy to support you in your new role by facilitating a new forum.  Would it be "GMP in Cannabis Industries" or something like that?  Let me know what you think.

 

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 08:50 PM

Good idea. I wouldn't imagine "the food safety or quality" aspects would be much different, but it certainly is a new category that is going to need a home.

 

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 09:29 PM

Great news, Scampi & Simon! 

The cannabis industry NEEDS good people overseeing its safety and quality and people like YOU, Scampi, with your knowledge and experience and CARE to start jumping in. And to have a forum such as this for the cannabis industry would be amazing!! 

 

I've been making my own homemade cannabutter and using it to make medicated sugar cookies using the knowledge I have from my time in the food industry and here in IFSQN. My mom uses my cookies to help manage her chronic pain from plantar fasciitis and disintegrated bones in her spinal column. She has to use edibles and tinctures because she can't smoke. 

 

Been looking for an "in" edibles - and cannabis industry at large - here on the West side of Michigan. That is one thing that could bring me back to food in a heartbeat, the cannabis industry opening up and bringing medicine to patients in food and drink form. That said, the principles of food safety and quality could be applied to the full spectrum of the industry, from farm to table. 

 

So happy for you and your new endeavor, Scampi. You're a store of knowledge and support for all of us; it is immensely gratifying to know that someone I "know" is bringing their considerable talents to this budding industry (pun TOTALLY intended! :rofl2: ). I always enjoyed reading your posts and always learned something from you (par for the course for all the awesome members here at IFSQN). Many congratulations from this girl over here :bye: . Please keep us updated - here or at the new forum (hint, hint Simon!  :whistle: ). Can't wait to hear about how your new position is going. 

 

Take care and best wishes, Scampi!

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Posted 28 March 2019 - 12:44 PM

Ladytygrr........i can't mention brands for obvious reasons, but there is a cannabis infused sugar on the market............just saying

 

isn't Michigan one of the states going to legalize?


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 01:37 PM

Nope, so I went and got a new one!

 

Switching to cannabis on the 15th!

 

That is exciting! Congrats to you. 



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Posted 07 April 2019 - 02:38 PM

I moved from low care facility to high care high risk factory. My previous manager was good and supportive and the only reason that I moved was I got bored. Now, It is over a year that I am working in this factory as a senior qa and I have learnt a lot and still I am learning. The topic of food safety in high care facility actually excites me BUT I have a supervisor that takes my wings away. She is micro managing me and send me random emails for a little errors ( example: Your Y looks like T on forms please correct it.!. It is very frustrating and take my productivity away. The working hours is getting crazy like 11-12 hours without a break! So much dramas almost every day. It has affected my personal life as I finish work late and still recieve phone calls or siting in front of lab top and work. Anyway, I have started looking for a job and unfortunately there is not too much going on in the job market. Currently I am working on updating and reviewing all technical SOPs which makes me keeps going.


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Posted 08 April 2019 - 03:26 PM

I moved from low care facility to high care high risk factory. My previous manager was good and supportive and the only reason that I moved was I got bored. Now, It is over a year that I am working in this factory as a senior qa and I have learnt a lot and still I am learning. The topic of food safety in high care facility actually excites me BUT I have a supervisor that takes my wings away. She is micro managing me and sends me random emails for a little errors ( example: Your Y looks like T on forms please correct it !). It is very frustrating and takes my productivity away. The working hours is getting crazy like 11-12 hours without a break! So much dramas almost every day. It has affected my personal life as I finish work late and still receive phone calls or siting in front of lab top and work. Anyway, I have started looking for a job and unfortunately there is not too much going on in the job market. Currently I am working on updating and reviewing all technical SOPs which makes me keeps going.


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Posted 08 April 2019 - 04:01 PM

I absolutely love the work I do and have loved it since the day I decided to stop being an SQF Auditor working for a CB like a travel slave and started as an SQF Consultant.  Granted self-employment is not without it's ups and downs - or as my wife would say - the feasts and famines.

 

To smooth out the famines when work just seems to be very elusive we diversified a while back into BTC and Forex trading, being an affiliate for a number of companies and now planning on a greenhouse operation and retail store for speciality foods.

 

My business love is and has been SQF consulting - I just love helping people, making companies better - and getting paid well for it in the process is a bonus.  

 

I get to travel when I want to and because of some things we've put into place I get to stay at the home office a lot more than before as we can most things remotely that we do in person.

 

All in all, the only downs are sometimes being away for extended periods of time and every once in a while we get a client that we wished we didn't have - we just didn't know the full background on the company or the people in the company until we walked in the door.

 

Overall I would say that I love helping people with their SQF projects.


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Posted 10 April 2019 - 08:49 PM

I voted "I'm not happy at all and thinking about what to do next",  i feel working in food industry especially in a quality role under lots of stress.  This job requires multi-tasking, excellent communication skills, problem solving skills,etc... and lots of energy and efforts, and sometimes shift work!!!!  I find it is hard to balance my life and family, especially I have 2 small kids.  All the quality managers I met from multiple food industries, are single women, or married but no kids. They work/on call for 24 hours /7 days/ week.   

I am desperate, because all my education and work experience are related to food manufacture/quality.  I do not know how I can change my career and where should I go......



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Posted 11 April 2019 - 01:58 PM

I voted "I'm not happy at all and thinking about what to do next",  i feel working in food industry especially in a quality role under lots of stress.  This job requires multi-tasking, excellent communication skills, problem solving skills,etc... and lots of energy and efforts, and sometimes shift work!!!!  I find it is hard to balance my life and family, especially I have 2 small kids.  All the quality managers I met from multiple food industries, are single women, or married but no kids. They work/on call for 24 hours /7 days/ week.   

I am desperate, because all my education and work experience are related to food manufacture/quality.  I do not know how I can change my career and where should I go......

 

Hi Dxf,

 

I understand. I feel as though I am "married" to my position, honestly. It is a constant on-call duty, with calls and emails at all hours of the day. There is a thread on here about other ways to make a living in the industry without having to necessarily be onsite. Maybe this is one that you can find useful.

 

https://www.ifsqn.co...od-safety-work/



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Posted 11 April 2019 - 02:16 PM

I voted "I'm not happy at all and thinking about what to do next",  i feel working in food industry especially in a quality role under lots of stress.  This job requires multi-tasking, excellent communication skills, problem solving skills,etc... and lots of energy and efforts, and sometimes shift work!!!!  I find it is hard to balance my life and family, especially I have 2 small kids.  All the quality managers I met from multiple food industries, are single women, or married but no kids. They work/on call for 24 hours /7 days/ week.   

I am desperate, because all my education and work experience are related to food manufacture/quality.  I do not know how I can change my career and where should I go......

 

A few ideas: work for companies that provide education and support to food industries like Eurofins, an auditing company, etc. In the US, they are always looking for inspectors though that would require traveling. Another thought - a smaller company. The benefits and pay may not be as good but usually the hours are better. If you had at least a master's degree, you could also go into teaching.



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Posted 11 April 2019 - 02:25 PM

A few ideas: work for companies that provide education and support to food industries like Eurofins, an auditing company, etc. In the US, they are always looking for inspectors though that would require traveling. Another thought - a smaller company. The benefits and pay may not be as good but usually the hours are better. If you had at least a master's degree, you could also go into teaching.

 

Auditing is a tricky one though; most auditors I know are on the road at least 70% of the week if not more, so having a family (especially a young family) is hard to balance. Also, smaller companies are not necessarily less stress; there may be more due to culture of company, and SKUs that the operation has. Smaller companies have less overall output in volume, but often don't streamline SKUs which also leads to just as much headache. 

 

Teaching is a good option, and consulting is as well. You have better control of your schedule and workload. We have at least one consultant on the site, and he seems to enjoy his work quite a bit. I've done a little on the side, I've found customers via jobsites, and helped create food safety plans, proposals, nutritionals, and SOPs. I stopped doing that because workload from main source of income became too high.



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Posted 12 April 2019 - 12:42 PM

I voted "I'm not happy at all and thinking about what to do next",  i feel working in food industry especially in a quality role under lots of stress.  This job requires multi-tasking, excellent communication skills, problem solving skills,etc... and lots of energy and efforts, and sometimes shift work!!!!  I find it is hard to balance my life and family, especially I have 2 small kids.  All the quality managers I met from multiple food industries, are single women, or married but no kids. They work/on call for 24 hours /7 days/ week.   

I am desperate, because all my education and work experience are related to food manufacture/quality.  I do not know how I can change my career and where should I go......

 

Where in Canada are you?  There are lots of opportunities available that do not work shift work (i know because I won't do it....those years are behind me now)  There will be occasional meetings at 5 am with sanitation, that sort of thing, but are not an everyday thing)  The really big Canadian companies all need regular day shift folks to manage the program, liase with CFIA etc......

 

I too have small kiddos, as did my last boss (at really big poultry company NOT ML) and we both worked a fairly straight day, but that facility was switching to 10 hour days.....had I stayed there, my position could have stayed M-F 8-4 ish or switched to 10s

 

But yes, the job can be exhausting, but that usually comes from a company mentality where quality is "responsible" for everything and operations takes ZERO of the workload IMHO of course


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Posted 21 May 2019 - 05:19 AM

GMO I am very sad to hear this. I do hope that things have gotten better or as in Scampi’s situation you have found some where else where you are happy and appreciated

 

I totally agree with your point, it all about patient and things will come to you. It is real fact do that work from where you can extract fun and entertainment.



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Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:15 PM

I couldn't agree more with Nancy@Masser's...I got the Food Safety program thrust upon me by my company, was ask to work hard and succeed with it, but then the same people that asked me to do that won't wear a hair net when they walk onto the packing floor and make executive decisions that go against policy without consulting me even though it directly affects my position and the company. How am I supposed to work hard, be passionate, and flourish at my position if it's not respected? Not to mention I am not compensated nearly enough for what I do for the company and how much money I save time. Time to figure out what chapter's next for me! :(



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Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:23 PM

Cannabis is looking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Lots of jobs in the field and with the edibles coming online in October (we hope) there's more demand for folks like us!

 

 

It's true that ignorance is bliss..................but only for the ignorant..................for the rest of use it's a nightmare we can't wake from!!! 


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Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:52 PM

I couldn't agree more with Nancy@Masser's...I got the Food Safety program thrust upon me by my company, was ask to work hard and succeed with it, but then the same people that asked me to do that won't wear a hair net when they walk onto the packing floor and make executive decisions that go against policy without consulting me even though it directly affects my position and the company. How am I supposed to work hard, be passionate, and flourish at my position if it's not respected? Not to mention I am not compensated nearly enough for what I do for the company and how much money I save time. Time to figure out what chapter's next for me! :(

 

I had a similar situation where the company I was working for was "encouraged" to get BRC certified. This is a family owned food manufacturer with over 100 years in business.
I was the Sanitation Manager (we had no QA department at this facility), I took the lead, did the training, had meetings with upper management and my peers to get input for writing policies and procedures, gently reminding them at first that our current "level of food safety" would not meet the BRC Standard, therefore things had to change. I told them what had to be done, according to the Standard, but that it was up to us to decide how we wanted to meet the intent.
This went on for a while, without much change in the culture. I wrote and implemented policies, which were generally followed, and procedures for receiving, shipping and transport (we already had these, but did not meet the Standard). They were pretty much ignored before, and the shiny new piece of paper did not make much difference.

 

Senior Senior Management decided that the other three facilities needed to get on board as well, so they go out and hire a "Corporate QA Manager" to oversee the transformation of all four plants into BRC Certificated facilities.

This person told Senior Senior management the same things I told them. We then we began the Odyssey.

Long story short, the QA Manger got fired, because senior management had no real commitment to change. (That's the end result of a Root Cause Analysis, BTW  :shades:

Shortly after that, a job opportunity came up with a company that employees a guy who I have been working with (or at least within the same company) on and off since 1991.

I interviewed, and moved away from the company that did not want to change to a company that already had, for significantly more money.

The company i worked for went on to be FSSC22000 certificated.

To answer your questions, you can't control what other people expect, unless they are reasonable expectations.

If management are not going to follow the rules, there is no point sticking with it. If there is no commitment up there, the system will always fail.

 

Look on Careers In Food, or other reputable job sites or call any contacts you may have. There are a lot of jobs out there in the food industry.

Unless you absolutely can't do it, consider taking a job that may require you to move.

 

No point in being unhappy in your job when there are options out there, you just need to look for them.

 

Best of Luck,

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 07:24 PM

Hi, it is 3:0"am here and I was reading many articles about a toxic environment. I stuck with a job that made me sick ( crushed my immune system and ended up to a do surgery) from a ridiculous level of stress. My boss is much younger than me and she is moody, unreasonable and every time changes her mind! I am now in sick leave due to pressure. The job market in food safety is not good currently in the area that I am living. Not so many jobs! I guess as you become more senior, it makes it harder to find a job. I applied for random jobs and waiting for the response. I love food safety but toxic work place took all my energy! I hope I can find a job soon.. it is my very first time that I am experiencing such a toxic work!


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Posted 04 June 2019 - 07:13 PM

I voted not happy but not enough to make a change.

Well, over all I somewhat like my job.

Its the employees and other management that make it very hard to go to work happy.

All though I am "management", why am I doing all the work? lol

I'm at a company where NO ONE helps out anyone. You are definitely on your own.

The other day an employee slipped and fell and the other employees just looked at her and went back to work.

This makes it impossible to be happy at my job.

 

Quick question for anyone.....have you guys ever have one of your employees put their work on you? An employee tells their boss to do their job?

Let me know what you think. Just curious.

 

And yes this happened to me and yes....I got stern and told her to do her job! (if it was up to me...she wouldn't have a job any more)

So yea..this is a pattern here at my company. No respect.

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Posted 04 June 2019 - 08:11 PM

I vote for it pays the rent! :roflmao:

 

I'm still satisfied with what I do but I'm getting bored. I used to be in a high risk RTE fast paced company and it stressed the heck out of me. Then I moved into my current company which is a low risk facility but federally inspected, medium family owned company and now I'm getting bored. I feel like I could do more, reach more people and preach food safety. I had a job offer for a RTE high risk job but declined the offer... because i have to prioritize being a "mom" now too.


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Posted 04 June 2019 - 08:48 PM

 Love it! Even being tasked with multiple duties, and team that I can't really communicate with, 100x better than my last position.



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Posted 13 July 2019 - 11:20 PM

Sorry to read the unhappy stories but I love the positive ones.  :spoton:

 

I love my job. I love my life.

 

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Posted 16 July 2019 - 01:17 AM

Hi,
I worked for a fruit company (low risk) as a QA officer for 3.5 years. Then I decided to move to a high risk factory as a senior QA (a salad factory) as I was bored working in a low risk.
As soon as I moved there and reviewed their system, I was like oh my God! What a mistake. Majority of procedures were written 5-6 years ago, no proper traceability, no up to date national procedures, no proper GMP culture etc. So with a 3 senior team member, we had to review and up to date the system from head to toe. For achieving that I had to work almost all my weekends plus 12-14 hours per day on week days. On top of it, I was still hearing complaints from my manager why I missed to reply a certain email on certain day or why I did not follow up with a certain topic. The situation was getting worse and unbearable. So I started to looking for a jon while working there. It took me almost 8 months until finally yesterday I recieved a job offer as a compliance manager for a fruit company. Yes, I am going back to low care. It is also going to be a long drive but I will take it. It was such a bad experience with high care. I loved the learning path of it but poor management and lack of appreciation let me down many times. Do not go to a high risk if there is not a proper food safety system. It is scary, dangerous and nerve racking.


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Posted 26 July 2019 - 08:09 PM

Name change. I'm now kfromne instead of kfromia. I started just over a month ago with my new position. I went from a small low risk facility with only the FDA to a high risk larger facility that is covered by the USDA and FDA. I have more responsibilities, more regulations to learn and work more - it has been crazy and I still have lots to learn however: I now have greater support (no longer a one-man show), at a company where food safety is greatly supported, better benefits and closer to family. 

 

Like other's have said. A key to being happy at a job is being supported from other co-workers, team members and especially top management. Being closer to family was a huge part as well and has made the transition easier.



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Posted 28 August 2019 - 03:51 PM

Hi,
I worked for a fruit company (low risk) as a QA officer for 3.5 years. Then I decided to move to a high risk factory as a senior QA (a salad factory) as I was bored working in a low risk.
As soon as I moved there and reviewed their system, I was like oh my God! What a mistake. Majority of procedures were written 5-6 years ago, no proper traceability, no up to date national procedures, no proper GMP culture etc. So with a 3 senior team member, we had to review and up to date the system from head to toe. For achieving that I had to work almost all my weekends plus 12-14 hours per day on week days. On top of it, I was still hearing complaints from my manager why I missed to reply a certain email on certain day or why I did not follow up with a certain topic. The situation was getting worse and unbearable. So I started to looking for a jon while working there. It took me almost 8 months until finally yesterday I recieved a job offer as a compliance manager for a fruit company. Yes, I am going back to low care. It is also going to be a long drive but I will take it. It was such a bad experience with high care. I loved the learning path of it but poor management and lack of appreciation let me down many times. Do not go to a high risk if there is not a proper food safety system. It is scary, dangerous and nerve racking.


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Name change. I'm now kfromne instead of kfromia. I started just over a month ago with my new position. I went from a small low risk facility with only the FDA to a high risk larger facility that is covered by the USDA and FDA. I have more responsibilities, more regulations to learn and work more - it has been crazy and I still have lots to learn however: I now have greater support (no longer a one-man show), at a company where food safety is greatly supported, better benefits and closer to family. 

 

Like other's have said. A key to being happy at a job is being supported from other co-workers, team members and especially top management. Being closer to family was a huge part as well and has made the transition easier.

 

Looks like the two of you are on opposite ends of the spectrum. I like a good challenge every now and then, but high risk/high care is indeed a little nerve racking when you don't have the proper support. Support is one of the most important tools you can have in an organization. If there is no buy-in from others, you don't get the results you need to make progress. Glad that both of you have found something suitable to your desires.






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