Jump to content

  • Quick Navigation
Photo
- - - - -

Standard E.coli count in Coconut Milk


  • You cannot start a new topic
  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

#1 roxcilmalaque

roxcilmalaque

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 5 posts
  • 1 thanks
0
Neutral

  • Philippines
    Philippines

Posted 17 September 2017 - 05:34 AM

Hi Everyone! Does anyone know the std e.coli count on coconut milk. My results for E.coli test shows "<3.0", what does it mean? I cant find a Microbiological  Standard for coconut milk. Thank You!



#2 MDG

MDG

    Grade - MIFSQN

  • IFSQN Member
  • 98 posts
  • 5 thanks
1
Neutral

  • India
    India
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:India

Posted 17 September 2017 - 01:58 PM

Coconut milk is prepared through spray dried process and heat process ensure the minimum count unless final product is cross contaminated. 



Thanked by 1 Member:

#3 roxcilmalaque

roxcilmalaque

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 5 posts
  • 1 thanks
0
Neutral

  • Philippines
    Philippines

Posted 17 September 2017 - 02:07 PM

Coconut milk is prepared through spray dried process and heat process ensure the minimum count unless final product is cross contaminated. 

We don't undergo spray dried since its only for "powdered" finished product. We just extract the coconut milk and subject it to blast freezer.



#4 Charles.C

Charles.C

    Grade - FIFSQN

  • IFSQN Moderator
  • 17,342 posts
  • 4831 thanks
942
Excellent

  • Earth
    Earth
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:SF
    TV
    Movies

Posted 17 September 2017 - 04:36 PM

Maybe try this thread -

 

http://www.ifsqn.com...specifications/


Kind Regards,

 

Charles.C


#5 Gerard H.

Gerard H.

    Grade - SIFSQN

  • IFSQN Senior
  • 411 posts
  • 131 thanks
41
Excellent

  • France
    France
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 September 2017 - 07:40 AM

Dear Roxcil Malaque,

 

To give an answer to your specific question:

 

-  E.coli test shows "<3.0" --> It is a way to express, that there were no colonies of E.coli found in the 3rd decimal dilution. More simply, it means:

 

E.coli < 103 (CFU*) / 1 ml product

 

or

 

E.coli < 1000 (CFU) / 1 ml product

 

*CFU = Colony Forming Unit

 

 

I hope that now it is more clear for you, what has been mentioned on the document.

 

Kind regards,

 

Gerard Heerkens



Thanked by 1 Member:

#6 roxcilmalaque

roxcilmalaque

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 5 posts
  • 1 thanks
0
Neutral

  • Philippines
    Philippines

Posted 18 September 2017 - 07:47 AM

Dear Roxcil Malaque,

 

To give an answer to your specific question:

 

-  E.coli test shows "<3.0" --> It is a way to express, that there were no colonies of E.coli found in the 3rd decimal dilution. More simply, it means:

 

E.coli < 103 (CFU*) / 1 ml product

 

or

 

E.coli < 1000 (CFU) / 1 ml product

 

*CFU = Colony Forming Unit

 

 

I hope that now it is more clear for you, what has been mentioned on the document.

 

Kind regards,

 

Gerard Heerkens

Thanks Gerard! This can help a lot!



#7 Gerard H.

Gerard H.

    Grade - SIFSQN

  • IFSQN Senior
  • 411 posts
  • 131 thanks
41
Excellent

  • France
    France
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 September 2017 - 08:07 AM

You're welcome! Have a nice day!



#8 Charles.C

Charles.C

    Grade - FIFSQN

  • IFSQN Moderator
  • 17,342 posts
  • 4831 thanks
942
Excellent

  • Earth
    Earth
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:SF
    TV
    Movies

Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:35 AM

Hi Gerard,

 

There is another possible interpretation to the number in OP.

 

The number may refer to a standard MPN test with no positive tubes (0-0-0), ie no detected activity, or statistically speaking,  <3.0 cfu/gram

 

Since this is for E.coli I sincerely hope the MPN version is nearer the truth. :smile:


Kind Regards,

 

Charles.C


Thanked by 2 Members:

#9 Gerard H.

Gerard H.

    Grade - SIFSQN

  • IFSQN Senior
  • 411 posts
  • 131 thanks
41
Excellent

  • France
    France
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:43 AM

Hi Charles,

 

Thanks a lot for your additional and helpful comments!

 

Kind regards,

 

Gerard



#10 Gerard H.

Gerard H.

    Grade - SIFSQN

  • IFSQN Senior
  • 411 posts
  • 131 thanks
41
Excellent

  • France
    France
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 September 2017 - 10:02 AM

Dear Roxcil,

 

Please check the answer from Charles C. above, as it is really nearer to the truth. I found some tables from the USDA, where the combinations are explained:

 

https://www.fsis.usd...pdf?MOD=AJPERES

 

Kind regards,

 

Gerard Heerkens



Thanked by 1 Member:

#11 roxcilmalaque

roxcilmalaque

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • 5 posts
  • 1 thanks
0
Neutral

  • Philippines
    Philippines

Posted 18 September 2017 - 10:24 AM

HI Everyone! Thank you for being so interactive, its appreciated. 



Thanked by 1 Member:

#12 Ryan M.

Ryan M.

    Grade - PIFSQN

  • IFSQN Principal
  • 955 posts
  • 375 thanks
159
Excellent

  • United States
    United States
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Birmingham, AL
  • Interests:Reading, crosswords, passionate discussions, laughing at US politics.

Posted 20 September 2017 - 09:33 PM

Is there anything else that goes with the "<3.0" number?  I ask because if there is a CFU/mL or CFU/gm after that it is very different than the 3 decimal places (logs) another poster mentioned.

 

Further, it really depends on the product and the process.  If the ingredient comes in with a low level of e.coli (which it should) and you have a treatment step, such as blast freezing, then you really should see any e.coli unless there is regrowth during or after thawing.






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

EV SSL Certificate