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Addressing clause 6.1 and clause 8.1 in ISO 22000:2018

FSMS 22000:2018 Risk assessment

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#1 nassrifi

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Posted 28 October 2020 - 06:38 AM

Dear friends. I need help to understand the relation between clause 6.1 and clause 8.1 in the ISO 22000:2018. It seems to me that are handling the same issue, that is hazard analysis and risk assessment. I need some leading explanation how to address both of them when I make the documentation required

 

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Posted 28 October 2020 - 03:30 PM

6.1 Actions to address risks & opportunities relates more to 4.1 Context of organization & Interested parties: you first identify external/internal issues, interested parties & their requirements and how to deal with those requirements, then you do SWOT analysis to identify your organization strengths & weaknesses, then define risks and opportunities to address those, and then develop and implement actual actions. Clause 8.1 is about how you plan, maintain and control those actions.



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Posted 02 November 2020 - 08:12 AM

Is there a template that we can use to carry out this risk and opportunity assessment and a swot template to use as guidelines



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Posted 02 November 2020 - 01:25 PM

Please, see SWOT sample attached, hope it'd help.

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Posted 02 November 2020 - 01:30 PM

Also - sample of Context & Interested Parties analysis: I've actually done it basing on the sample given on this Forum by some other people, very useful!

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Posted 02 November 2020 - 01:35 PM

Awesome Thank You, Very useful tool.



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Posted 02 November 2020 - 01:36 PM

Great and useful info.

 

Really appreciated

 

Thank You



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Posted 02 November 2020 - 07:01 PM

Dear Olenazh, thank you for sharing the context & Interested Party Analysis Sample.

 

I noticed that for each external issue there is an internal issue. correct me if I am wrong. I thought that the External issues are separated from the Internal issues, I understood that the Internal issues are the issues that may has impact on the internal environment of the organization , witch can be translated into strength & weakness of the organization while the External issues are the ones impacting the organization from the external environment, witch can be translated into Opportunities & threats . Both should be related to the interested parties [ Interested parties includes the organization too ] 

So as far as I understand, it is some how SWAT analysis in an other form.

 

Please correct me if My understanding is diverted from the real and actual purpose of these clauses, as I am still confused in understanding it properly.   



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Posted 02 November 2020 - 07:12 PM

I don't want to oppose your understanding as mine might not be correct (however, it was accepted by the auditor) Anyways, the attached might be helpful to understand standard requirements better.

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Posted 03 November 2020 - 12:11 AM

I don't want to oppose your understanding as mine might not be correct (however, it was accepted by the auditor) Anyways, the attached might be helpful to understand standard requirements better.

 

Hi olena,

 

Thks yr iputs.

 

I apologize for my ignorance but I have no idea what all this ISO "bumff"  has to do with Food Safety. 

 

Looks to me more like (ISO) Empire building.


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Posted 03 November 2020 - 06:58 AM

This looks like so hectic stuff to do.  I



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Posted 03 November 2020 - 07:43 AM

This looks like so hectic stuff to do.  I

Consider a less overloaded, more prescriptive Standard ?


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Posted 10 April 2021 - 07:34 PM

Hi to everyone,

 

I still don't clearly understand how clause 8.1 must be managed

 

Do we have to write a Procedure?

It seems that there is a repetition between 6.1 and 8.1

 

What should we comprise here. 

 

Risks? Targets? Complaints? Customer satisfaction? Everything?

 

Is there anyone that can help me on that matter?

 

Thanks



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Posted 10 April 2021 - 07:36 PM

Please, see SWOT sample attached, hope it'd help.

Hi there, 

 

Is not that a swot that can be done in 4.1?



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Posted 20 April 2021 - 09:37 AM

So this gets really hectic - I had already have a comprehensive documented SWOT analysis and Risk & Opportunity Document.  

 

2 weeks ago I went for a re-cert V5.1 got a minor finding  on Clause 6.1.1 - ISO 2200:2018 

 

* for not considering ie: Internal parties -  Employee succession plans, outcomes from FSMS performance (customer complaints, Managment reviews outputs, verification activities results, mock recall failures & etc.................. the second finding was not drawing up an action list from the Risk and Opportunity doc.

 

So now my documents are like a little book that is about 10 pages long.  Who comes up with these new clauses.  







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