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Posted 09 August 2021 - 09:52 PM

Hey everyone, just started a position at a Tortilla Factory developing an SQF 9 system.  Looking at our shelf life testing program and was wondering how official y'all think we need to be with it.  I'm down for taking our product to an outside lab for testing but I'm also fine with what they've been doing which is: bringing it in and putting it on a shelf for a few weeks to see how long it lasts. They've been using no documentation as yet and I'm prepping for the whole shebang of daily recorded observations and super rigorous scientific testing but wanted to make sure that my efforts are well spent. Any insights? Thanks, Alex



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Posted 09 August 2021 - 10:42 PM

Hey everyone,

 

Just started a position at a Tortilla Factory developing an SQF 9 system.  Looking at our shelf life testing program and was wondering how official y'all think we need to be with it.  I'm down for taking our product to an outside lab for testing but I'm also fine with what they've been doing which is: bringing it in and putting it on a shelf for a few weeks to see how long it lasts.   

 

They've been using no documentation as yet and I'm prepping for the whole shebang of daily recorded observations and super rigorous scientific testing but wanted to make sure that my efforts are well spent.

 

Any insights?

 

Thanks,

 

Alex

 

Hi Alex

 

We did something similar where im currently working. We took samples for different lots and test every 4 months for indicators (APC, Coliform, E.Coli), this was done by our in house lab in petrifilm.  We also check for Moisture and Vitamine C (That was for outside lab) , we do frozen peppers.

 

You could use something similar and add a test of flavor, color, etc. instead of months, you could do by weekly or whatever parameter you think is best for your product. 

 

If you gather enough data, you will be able to show the microbiological behavior of your product shelf life.



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Posted 10 August 2021 - 02:41 AM

Hey everyone,

 

Just started a position at a Tortilla Factory developing an SQF 9 system.  Looking at our shelf life testing program and was wondering how official y'all think we need to be with it.  I'm down for taking our product to an outside lab for testing but I'm also fine with what they've been doing which is: bringing it in and putting it on a shelf for a few weeks to see how long it lasts.   

 

They've been using no documentation as yet and I'm prepping for the whole shebang of daily recorded observations and super rigorous scientific testing but wanted to make sure that my efforts are well spent.

 

Any insights?

 

Thanks,

 

Alex

 

Hi Alex,

 

Apologies no familiarity Tortilla.

 

Finished product  RTE ? RTC ?

 

Finished product stored frozen, chilled, vac/MAP packed ? labelled  shelf-life ?


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Posted 10 August 2021 - 12:24 PM

Hi Alex,



Apologies no familiarity Tortilla.

.......

Think TACO BELL

there are soft and hard tortilla's

Used as sandwich wraps.


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Posted 10 August 2021 - 12:25 PM

We always sent everything out to a 4 season lab.


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Posted 10 August 2021 - 01:20 PM

Apologies no familiarity Tortilla.

 

Oh man, living in Texas I am TOO familiar with tortillas!

I didn't know there were people in this world that haven't had the joy of a delicious freshly made hot off the griddle fluffy tortilla...



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Posted 10 August 2021 - 03:48 PM

Hi Alex,

 

Apologies no familiarity Tortilla.

 

Finished product  RTE ? RTC ?

 

Finished product stored frozen, chilled, vac/MAP packed ? labelled  shelf-life ?

 

Hi Charles,

 

I've been orienting myself with the idea that its basically a bakery with very low cook time.  The product is loosely vac packed RTE after an open air cooling period.   We may freeze or cool for storage and the shelf life can range from 3-5 days to longer than 40 Depending on the preservative status of the product.  Most of the product is 21 days ambient for food service.

 

The product largely has set and established shelf lives determined by like 60 years of experience, but none of it has been validated.  I'm just looking to figure out how rigorous I gotta be in my validation studies.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Alex



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Posted 11 August 2021 - 05:06 AM

Hi Charles,

 

I've been orienting myself with the idea that its basically a bakery with very low cook time.  The product is loosely vac packed RTE after an open air cooling period.   We may freeze or cool for storage and the shelf life can range from 3-5 days to longer than 40 Depending on the preservative status of the product.  Most of the product is 21 days ambient for food service.

 

The product largely has set and established shelf lives determined by like 60 years of experience, but none of it has been validated.  I'm just looking to figure out how rigorous I gotta be in my validation studies.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Alex

 

Hi Alex,

 

As noted, no familiarity with tortillas but do note that the use of RTE, vacuum packs can be "precarious". For example -

 

Attached File  Baked Goods and Botulism.pdf   1.72MB   6 downloads


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