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Posted 20 July 2022 - 10:56 AM

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Could anyone advise how to work out a representative number of samples to take for micro sample. What criteria is used to establish this.

Production runs at around 8T a week - so how many samples would we need to take to give a decent overview?

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Posted 20 July 2022 - 12:09 PM

Depends on what you're making: I could say, if you make packed product (e.g. in containers, bottles, etc.) 1 item from the beginning of a batch, 1 - from middle, and 1 from the end would be quite representative. For bulk products - I'm not sure, let's wait what other experts say.



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Posted 20 July 2022 - 12:23 PM

using an AQL calculator is probably a great way to start--it allows you see try some variables to see what your sampling plan might look like before you start mostly importantly your FG weight (8 tonnes may sound like a lot, but if your processing beef or turkey or corn-really not all that much)

 

https://qualityinspe...aql-calculator/

 

There are lots of AQL calculators available, just provided link of one I have used


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Posted 20 July 2022 - 03:34 PM

Hi

Could anyone advise how to work out a representative number of samples to take for micro sample. What criteria is used to establish this.

Production runs at around 8T a week - so how many samples would we need to take to give a decent overview?

Thanks

Hi charlotte,

 

It depends on what micro. species you wish to evaluate and the type of objective of yr evaluation.

 

Try this thread plus the sub-link in Post 6 -

 

https://www.ifsqn.co...ng/#entry103482

 

PS - should add that if the context is for a "small", in-house micro. lab probably most of the textbook recommended sampling schemes are logistically impossible on a routine basis. IMEX, the end result is something like a weekly batch of analyses performed on a rotating basis with some prioritisation for more sensitive items, eg RTE products, new raw materials, etc.


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Posted 21 July 2022 - 11:13 AM

It is crab and lobster processing - ready to eat products. Listeria, Salmonella, Ecoli, Staph, C Bot (for vac pac), Shigella, Vibrio.

I'll take a look at the links sent.

Thansk for your help everyone

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Posted 23 July 2022 - 05:50 AM

It is crab and lobster processing - ready to eat products. Listeria, Salmonella, Ecoli, Staph, C Bot (for vac pac), Shigella, Vibrio.

I'll take a look at the links sent.

Thansk for your help everyone

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Hi charlotte,

 

That is a heavy (and likely expensive) menu. I deduce samples to be sent to ext. lab.

Note 4/7 are not pathogens, per se.

I can almost guarantee "Vibrio" will be positive. :smile:


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