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Posted 12 October 2022 - 03:37 PM

Hello to all the Canadians

 

We have multiple plants across the country and as such we are used to some variance re: CFIA inspections 

 

Now, CFIA has notified us that they are going to do mid shift salmonella swabs...........WTH.  We are not RTE and on our commodity, there is zero research available on any correlation between salmonella on equipment (NFTC) and the finished good

 

Anyone else experience this?  It appears CFIA is making up rules as they go and trying to apply the salmonella performance standard for meat to other commodities (and that was actual product testing not enviro)


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Posted 12 October 2022 - 04:01 PM

That seems SO counterintuitive! What happens if you get a positive?

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Posted 12 October 2022 - 04:11 PM

Exactly Setanta!  If we ship the product, we'd may be forced into a recall depending on where the positive swab was taken (pre/post wash)

 

Now, CFIA has always swabbed for ecoli and TPC during ops which is fine---you'd expect to see those at that time

 

Now were being forced to HOLD 1/2 a shift of production until the swab results come back (about 5 business days)

 

Something stinks here that's for sure and I know the USDA does not do this for the same commodity 


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Posted 12 October 2022 - 06:42 PM

So, they're going to swab raw meat for Salmonella? I thought, CFIA was testing only standardized products - in our case, it's always been cream cheese. No, we haven't got any notifications from CFIA (yet?)



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Posted 12 October 2022 - 06:53 PM

Sorry Canadians about your new rules. In the beginning of FSMA, the FDA inspectors were making up rules as they go too/determining how the rules should be interpreted. I wish you luck.

 

Have you asked why the change/science behind it?


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Posted 12 October 2022 - 06:55 PM

So, they're going to swab raw meat for Salmonella? I thought, CFIA was testing only standardized products - in our case, it's always been cream cheese. No, we haven't got any notifications from CFIA (yet?)

 

No no, meat has always been swabbed (or swished depending) that is not new and I'm not talking about product testing, that's not new either

 

These are enviro swabs mid-shift


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Posted 12 October 2022 - 06:55 PM

Sorry Canadians that your new rules. In the beginning of FSMA, the FDA inspectors were making up rules as they go too/determining how the rules should be interpreted. I wish you luck.

 

Have you asked why the change/science behind it?

 

 

HAHAHA yes and got no where as yet


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Posted 12 October 2022 - 07:39 PM

...CFIA has notified us that they are going to do mid shift salmonella swabs.....

 

How did you receive this notification?



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Posted 12 October 2022 - 07:54 PM

cfia inspector told us


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