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Posted 14 November 2022 - 08:00 AM

Hi All, 

I just wondering, is it possible if the food manufacturing do not have CCP in their HACCP Flow Process?

if possible, why?

 

Because, last time I read in maltose syrup they only have PRP and OPRP.

 

 

 

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Posted 14 November 2022 - 10:56 AM

Hi All, 

I just wondering, is it possible if the food manufacturing do not have CCP in their HACCP Flow Process?

if possible, why?

 

Because, last time I read in maltose syrup they only have PRP and OPRP.

 

 

 

Thanks 

Hi Adistiyaika,

 

I deduce you are talking amount iso-HACCP as used in iso22000.

In fact OPRP is a " kind" of CCP since both initially originate due to the occurrence of a significant hazard as shown by the hazard analysis.

 

If yr query had been referring to Codex HACCP (only uses CCPs, not OPRPs) then the answer would have been slightly different, ie the hazard analysis showed an absence of significant hazards so no CCPs required.


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Posted 15 November 2022 - 01:37 AM

Halo Kak :)

 

Kalau menurut aku mungkin saja sebuah HACCP tidak memiliki CCP,

karena bila berdasarkan pohon pertanyaan yang baru yang ke-5, lebih mengarah bahwa CCP itu harus bisa terukur.

"Apakah mungkin untuk menetapkan batas kritis yg terukur dan monitoring yg dapat mendeteksi dan mengkoreksi semua kegagalan secara tepat waktu?"

 

Jadi mungkin saja tidak ada CCP, tapi masih ada OPRP

 

*CMIIW

 

 

Terima kasih,

Best regards,

Rafif Utama Putra



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Posted 15 November 2022 - 02:14 AM

Halo Kak :)

 

Kalau menurut aku mungkin saja sebuah HACCP tidak memiliki CCP,

karena bila berdasarkan pohon pertanyaan yang baru yang ke-5, lebih mengarah bahwa CCP itu harus bisa terukur.

"Apakah mungkin untuk menetapkan batas kritis yg terukur dan monitoring yg dapat mendeteksi dan mengkoreksi semua kegagalan secara tepat waktu?"

 

Jadi mungkin saja tidak ada CCP, tapi masih ada OPRP

 

*CMIIW

 

 

Terima kasih,

Best regards,

Rafif Utama Putra

 

Please repeat in English which is language of this Forum. Thanks.

FSSC's distinctions between CCP and OPRP are sometimes questionable and perhaps ultimately non-significant. The most important feature in 2018 version as compared to 2005 is, IMO, from a safety POV,  as to whether a Significant Hazard exists.


Kind Regards,

 

Charles.C




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