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[Scampi]

https://www.newsweek...ompany-10889018

 

This would lead me to believe this 1 grading facility is grading/packaging 6 million eggs or 500,000 dozen eggs in a single day

 

[TimG]

Ok, I seen this one and thought 'doesn't cooking them negate this risk?'

I mean, this is why they say don't eat cookie dough, right? But as long as you're cooking your eggs fully you should be fine?

As you can tell my degree is not in food sciences...

[kconf]

Not just for the eggs, raw flour too. 

[MDaleDDF]

Any thoughts on this from the statement:

 

"...swabs, taken from non-food contact surfaces such as floor drains, floor cracks, and drip pans, tested positive for salmonella. Many days later the FDA issued a statement about the findings which lacked thorough details causing some to question the safety of our eggs. Most importantly, all of our eggs tested negative for salmonella and showed no signs of contamination."

[Setanta]

I was expecting this to be the cooked pasta recall...

 

 

AND this isn't on the FDA site, ,yet

Edited by Setanta, Yesterday, 03:01 PM.

[Scampi]

NO ONE testing actual eggs for salmonella   It's 100% environmental testing so the statement

 

"none of our eggs tested positive" rings pretty hollow to me

[Scampi]

I was expecting this to be the cooked pasta recall...

 

 

AND this isn't on the FDA site, ,yet

aren't they are temporarily furloughed due to the (ya know) goings on?  I know front line won't be affected.......

[Setanta]

The FDa is still theoretically still working, but I don't understand how Newsweek gets better updates than I can.

[GMO]

Ok, I seen this one and thought 'doesn't cooking them negate this risk?'

I mean, this is why they say don't eat cookie dough, right? But as long as you're cooking your eggs fully you should be fine?

As you can tell my degree is not in food sciences...

 

Not if you have them soft boiled or other ways you like runny yolks.

 

There was a HUGE scandal in the UK in the 80s about salmonella in eggs, so much so it almost destroyed the egg industry here.  So they acted.  Brought in vaccination for "Lion" eggs (most eggs sold in the UK which are coded with a date and a Lion logo) and also on farm controls etc.

 

Now even high risk groups are told that runny yolks are safe to eat here.

 

UK eggs declared safe 30 years after salmonella scare - BBC News

 

I'm permanently baffled more countries don't do the same.  The vaccination alone must actually save money through not losing birds for a start.

[Shrimper]

The FDa is still theoretically still working, but I don't understand how Newsweek gets better updates than I can.

From what I understand, the websites are not currently being managed, but the FDA is still active. 

[kfromNE]

The FDa is still theoretically still working, but I don't understand how Newsweek gets better updates than I can.

 

This one came out a few weeks ago. I did get it through an email from the FDA or through food safety news. 

 

https://www.fda.gov/...black-sheep-egg

[Scampi]

 

Now even high risk groups are told that runny yolks are safe to eat here.

 

UK eggs declared safe 30 years after salmonella scare - BBC News

 

I'm permanently baffled more countries don't do the same.  The vaccination alone must actually save money through not losing birds for a start.

 

 

It's coming to Canada        the difference here is the growers hold ALL the cards, and the grading station has none...............

Currently not enough vaccination to go around, so first step is vaccine manufacturing, followed by poult vaccination--CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH

[jfrey123]

I was expecting this to be the cooked pasta recall...

 

aren't they are temporarily furloughed due to the (ya know) goings on?  I know front line won't be affected.......

 

I just received this update last night that ANOTHER retailer has had to recall a pasta product because of the affected pasta plant:  Sprouts Farmers Market is Recalling Smoked Mozzarella Pasta Salad Because of Possible Health Risk | FDA

 

The overall outbreak linked to this pasta has been updated with the Sprouts announcement:  2025 Recalls of Prepared Pasta Meals (Frozen and Ready-To-Eat) Due to Potential Listeria monocytogenes Contamination | FDA

 

But keep in mind the FDA site isn't listing all of the USDA regulated items that contain the affected pasta either, so this is larger than only looking at the FDA's website.  More and more, the reaching effects of this pasta issue are starting to remind me of the Boar's Head recall.

[Lynx42]

I was expecting this to be the cooked pasta recall...

 

 

AND this isn't on the FDA site, ,yet

 

It was on the Enforcement Report email I received yesterday.  https://www.accessda...es/?Event=97655

 

It was also on the Daily Digest Bulletin sent 9/30. 

Edited by Lynx42, Yesterday, 07:55 PM.

[kconf]

So the eggs prices will go back up to $15/dozen? 

[Tony-C]

Most of these eggs are likely to have been eaten and there have been no reported illnesses?:

‘Products of concern include12- and 18-count cartons of Black Sheep Egg Company branded Free Range Large Grade A Brown Eggs with Best By dates of 8/22/2025 through 10/31/2025 listed on the side of the carton.’

 

[Scampi]

this statement from Nate's fine foods is repugnant 

 

Nate's Fine Foods sincerely apologizes for the concern this may cause. 

 

https://www.natesfin...d.com/general-5

[qa_maddy]

The US tried to pass something that would prohibit poultry contaminated with salmonella from being allowed into the food system as a first step but our current.....leader and the head of HHS overturned that. 

We're doing great over here. 

 

My kingdom for preventative measures on federal level. 

[Scampi]

The US tried to pass something that would prohibit poultry contaminated with salmonella from being allowed into the food system as a first step but our current.....leader and the head of HHS overturned that. 

We're doing great over here. 

 

 

 

Overturned legislation that is more than a decade old ?   Or are you talking about fully cooked poultry?

[kfromNE]

The US tried to pass something that would prohibit poultry contaminated with salmonella from being allowed into the food system as a first step but our current.....leader and the head of HHS overturned that. 

We're doing great over here. 

 

My kingdom for preventative measures on federal level. 

 

 

What Europe does to prevent Salmonella and what the USA was going to do - two different concepts. 

 

This being overturned - a great thing. I work at a poultry processing facility. We put our raw chicken through a conveyor belt of PAA or peracetic acid. That's what slaughter and further processing facilities are doing already too. We could go a higher ppm and still be safe but we'd rather not. We had to put this into place after we had too many positives for salmonella in raw chicken. It was 3 or 4 in a year. Put us in Cat. 3. Our inspectors told us that we weren't the source. It was our suppliers. Even when we tried to get Cat 1 suppliers - that didn't completely work. 

 

This is one time, I completely agree with the ruling. 

[qa_maddy]

Overturned legislation that is more than a decade old ?   Or are you talking about fully cooked poultry?

 

This is what I meant 

https://www.fooddive...-safety/746613/

[qa_maddy]

What Europe does to prevent Salmonella and what the USA was going to do - two different concepts. 

 

This being overturned - a great thing. I work at a poultry processing facility. We put our raw chicken through a conveyor belt of PAA or peracetic acid. That's what slaughter and further processing facilities are doing already too. We could go a higher ppm and still be safe but we'd rather not. We had to put this into place after we had too many positives for salmonella in raw chicken. It was 3 or 4 in a year. Put us in Cat. 3. Our inspectors told us that we weren't the source. It was our suppliers. Even when we tried to get Cat 1 suppliers - that didn't completely work. 

 

This is one time, I completely agree with the ruling. 

That's totally fair - this is where my ignorance is showing. My experience lies in produce and seafood so I've definitely got a blind spot for poultry and USDA stuff in general. I guess I hadn't considered the hurdles in place and what that kind of ruling would impact. I appreciate the insight