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[Sameer]

Hi,

In India, i think certification is doing more to hurt "quality" than improve it. Most of our SMEs have a ahrd time differentiating between Certification bodies & conultants!1 ( partly bcos a lot of certification bodies provide coonsultancy on the sly!!!)
The point is that impelementation of standards esp in the Food industry is largly due to export requirements and the much obliging certification bodies will certify anything that's alive so as to speak.
Quality therefore is slowly being limited to third party audits!!!

On the + side , standards to help smaller organizations to get professional and for those that want to a way to be amongst the best!!

Sameer

[Charles Chew]

Hi Sameer,

There is indeed a whole lot of truth at least in most of ASIA that CB companies (including the big boys) are doing consultation businesses (EU countries?) on the side or in collaboration with friendly parties hence removing the most paramount reason for their existence.......
INDEPENDENCE STATUS

Yes, it has killed the quality aspect of the standard somewhat and I believe one of the huge reasons for the ever degradation of ISO 9K is simply their own doings.

The other issue is very much on financial impact (I wonder if we should discuss this on this thread?)....most companies go for watered down systems (not only ISO 9K) but just enough to get certification because it s CHEAP but looses the backbone for system survival.

It a big can of worms Maybe, we should consider whether we shouild allow CB companies to play God as well

Bottomline - what does the client want? Quality system that is independently implemented or a "quickee"

Cheers
Charles Chew

[Simon]

Hi Sameer,

Are you talking about ISO 9001:2000?

Regards,
Simon