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#1 Simon

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 08:45 AM

Tesco chocolate mousse.

Allergy advice:

Contains milk
Recipe:
no nuts
Ingredients:
Cannot guarantee nut free
Factory:
Product made in nut free area, but nuts used elsewhere


Consumer: Look does it contain £@!!@! nuts or doesn't it

Tesco Chocolate mousse - you naughty boy. :thumbdown:


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Posted 01 September 2007 - 01:49 PM

Simon,

There is a suggestion in the Food Standard Agency website which was discussed in this forum earlier (upload available) that you need to manage allergen risk assessments on intentional and unintentional basis.

Tesco chocolate mousse is merely an attempt to meet that suggestive guideline

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 02:00 PM

Simon,

There is a suggestion in the Food Standard Agency website which was discussed in this forum earlier (upload available) that you need to manage allergen risk assessments on intentional and unintentional basis.

Tesco chocolate mousse is merely an attempt to meet that suggestive guideline

Suzuki

Suzuki please stop being so rational; you know it's a complete load of old bullocks. It's saying you take the risk because we can't do our job properly.

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 02:06 PM

Dear Simon,

Are you saying that you didn't make the list up ?? If real, unbelievable !

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 02:16 PM

Dear Simon,

Are you saying that you didn't make the list up ?? If real, unbelievable !

Rgds / Charles.C

It's real. My wife laughed when I showed it to her and she's not one little bit anal about food safety. It must be ridiculous. It may be meeting the law, but I'm afraid the law is an ass your honour. :whistle:

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Posted 16 September 2007 - 06:53 AM

that tesco label confused me. it would have been better if they just printed on the label "may contain nuts".


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Posted 18 September 2007 - 03:29 PM

that tesco label confused me. it would have been better if they just printed on the label "may contain nuts".



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i've had to approve labels in the past that have "contains milk" as allergen advice on designs for milk!!!!!

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 07:32 AM

Simon

i've had to approve labels in the past that have "contains milk" as allergen advice on designs for milk!!!!!

C x

Where will this madness end. :doh:

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 09:10 PM

Dear Simon,

I would suggest we consider adding a HACCP rating to the labelling. At least this might force people into deciding what represents an acceptable risk (eg number of casualties per yr). I suppose this is "too much" information.

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 02:18 PM

Dear Simon,

I would suggest we consider adding a HACCP rating to the labelling. At least this might force people into deciding what represents an acceptable risk (eg number of casualties per yr). I suppose this is "too much" information.

Rgds / Charles.C




Problem is Charles is that there are some manufacturers out there who haven't quite got the grasp of what constitutes a risk !!

( Simon, I have not mentioned the C word!!!!) :whistle:

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 02:03 PM

I have been asked to approve artwork today for an ASDA own label product that we make which declares "Free from Hydrogenated fats - we've done the hard work and taken all the hydrogenated fats out of this product" - excuse me - there were never any there in the first place, blatant mis representation, but strangely enough we can't seem to get hold of the buyer and a chromalin is already at the printers.



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Posted 23 October 2007 - 07:05 PM

I have been asked to approve artwork today for an ASDA own label product that we make which declares "Free from Hydrogenated fats - we've done the hard work and taken all the hydrogenated fats out of this product" - excuse me - there were never any there in the first place, blatant mis representation, but strangely enough we can't seem to get hold of the buyer and a chromalin is already at the printers.

He he you could have some fun with that. I suppose it's some knd of reverse psychology. Carrot burgers, do not contain lead, arsenic, rat pooh etc. Kinda makes them more appealing. If it's delibertate it's a naughty strategy playing with consumers.

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Posted 11 November 2007 - 04:00 PM

The Supermatrkets are conning us all. yes i know "conning" is a strong word, but lets be honest they are!
I bet you there every single manufacturer representative on this site can call up at least one instance of how a customer is conned...be it being told that a product that never had hydrogenated fats, has no hydrogenated fats, or harping on about food miles. We are being held to randsom because lets be honest, we all want to see our goods on their shelves!

Here's a for instance. I hope it makes you think.
The majority of "welsh branded" milk available to customers in Wales, whilst although welsh in origin, is actually packed in England (Tesco - Severnside, Asda-Ashby de la Zouch, M&S-Severnside). is this not conning the customer, who probably thinks he is buying a locally produced product, bottled at a local factory? Yet if you ask the supermarkets in question (which i have) they will tel you that there are no bottling facilities in Wales!! (do a google search to see if this is true!)

M &S currently have a campaign where they are looking at "Food Miles" yet their milk is picked up in West Wales before being transported 100 miles to be bottled, then brought back to Wales!

I can only talk about milk, and milk products. but it would be intersting to see what other "scams" they get up to.



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Posted 13 November 2007 - 09:02 PM

The Supermatrkets are conning us all. yes i know "conning" is a strong word, but lets be honest they are!
I bet you there every single manufacturer representative on this site can call up at least one instance of how a customer is conned...be it being told that a product that never had hydrogenated fats, has no hydrogenated fats, or harping on about food miles. We are being held to randsom because lets be honest, we all want to see our goods on their shelves!

Here's a for instance. I hope it makes you think.
The majority of "welsh branded" milk available to customers in Wales, whilst although welsh in origin, is actually packed in England (Tesco - Severnside, Asda-Ashby de la Zouch, M&S-Severnside). is this not conning the customer, who probably thinks he is buying a locally produced product, bottled at a local factory? Yet if you ask the supermarkets in question (which i have) they will tel you that there are no bottling facilities in Wales!! (do a google search to see if this is true!)

M & S currently have a campaign where they are looking at "Food Miles" yet their milk is picked up in West Wales before being transported 100 miles to be bottled, then brought back to Wales!

I can only talk about milk, and milk products. but it would be intersting to see what other "scams" they get up to.

Why don't you challenge them directly Caz. Write a letter to the CEO, or maybe watch dog. I think it's time for positive action. Maybe a cow pat in the post. :whistle:

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 07:29 AM

My company adds the "No Trans Fat" advice on the labelling just to satisfy some country regulations. Our products dont really contain fat.

Sugar-free, fat-free, enriched with vitamins, enriched with proteins...

It does give the appearance to our customers to choose our products over others.



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