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[Tony-C]

From BBC News website today: Chip shop showed "poor hygiene"

A council inspection of a chip shop possibly linked to an E.coli outbreak found poor hygiene conditions and major non-compliance with food legislation. Wrexham Council gave the Llay Fish Bar its lowest possible star rating - zero stars- in an inspection a year ago. A woman and a three-year-old girl remain "seriously ill" in hospital with E.coli. The fish and chip shop was inspected by the council on 13 August, 2008 and the report noted: "Poor hygiene conditions found. Some major non-compliance with food legislation." The chip shop was recommended for annual inspections, and the next was due this month.

How on earth can you schedule an inspection a year after finding major non-compliance with food legislation?

[cazyncymru]

From BBC News website today: Chip shop showed "poor hygiene"



How on earth can you schedule an inspection a year after finding major non-compliance with food legislation?

it got a zero! god forbid!

[Simon]

I saw this on the news last night. As a representative numpty consumer I would never have thought Fish and Chip shops were a risk. Curry houses, kebab shops, burger / hot dog street sellers, but never fish and chips. What is the world coming to?

[Tony-C]

This particular vege burger was obviously not the healthy option!

IMO the local authority have to share some responsibility for this and they are providing enough evidence of their own failures.

Maybe the local authority should introduce a Food Safety Management System.

ISO 22000 8.4.1 Internal Audit
Management shall ensure that actions are taken without undue delay .....follow up activites shall include the verification of the actions taken

[Charles.C]

Typically incomplete BBC report. Is it actuallly referring to E.coli 157 or what ?

No comments regarding sampling at the restaurant.

No restrictions in UK on offering other products alongside F&C with different risk factors ?? The comments suggest that this shop was classified as low risk. Based on F&C only perhaps ?

So what was the (presumably specified somewhere) designated corrective action after the original awarding of zero stars ?

I seem to recall seeing zero stars in some of the other "scores on doors" published assessments so there must be an existing precedent.

It is possible that they only hv 1 inspector of course.

Rgds / Charles.C

[Tony-C]

Typically incomplete BBC report. Is it actuallly referring to E.coli 157 or what ?

157 I believe more info here:

Wrexham Chronicle e-coli probe chippy the llay fish bar

Wales Online :

Professor Ralph Blanchfield, of the Institute of Food Science & Technology, said any takeaway deemed to be falling so far short of safety standards should have been re-inspected soon afterwards

Regards

Tony

[Charles.C]

Thks Tony, some enlightenment provided.

Comments –

1. The BBC could learn a few things about technical reporting from the Wrexham Chronicle.
2. There is a flavour that the inspection activities are currently being carried out as a form of lip service due the informative–only aspect of the scheme, ie it has no teeth (in fact there is a suspicion that it has no corrective actions at all ??!!). However I can partly understand the official caution since I think it is statistically not unusual that many of the knee-jerk reactions to these sad incidents are found to be incorrect or (even more typically) the incident is eventually filed as “no confirmable origin”. Cadburys were a good example of the downside to this approach of course.
3. A blanket of silence will presumably now descend via use of the “sub judice” card. The UK disclosure system seems quite different to the US in such matters.
4. I still noticed no info about sampling. This is usually SOP although often with negative findings.
5. The saddest part of this case as far as the evaluation project is concerned is that if there is a nationally standardised rating system in use, looks like there are some serious deficiencies which you would hv thought would hv been apparent a long time ago. My guess is that individual bodies are adapting for themselves, based on available manpower / funding perhaps ?

Rgds / Charles.C

[Tony-C]

Fortunately the young girl that was infected is recovering:

3-year-old E.coli victim from Llay ‘improving’

Regards,

Tony