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[Simon]

I'm interested in finding out what document structure members use for planning and recording training. The goal is useful, user friendly, simple, but adequate for due diligence.

Thanks,
Simon

[Simon]

Answering my own posts again.

I found the attached document which gives quite useful guidance on the purpose of training record and how it should be used. I'm not sure about the actually training record section as it does not allow for regular reviews. It helps me though.

Regards,
Simon

 personal_training_record.pdf   80.98KB   733 downloads

[Cathy]

Sorry Simon - I don't have a good example. The best way I've done this (inexpensively) was by using an Access database that would record a multitude of types of course, training dates, personnel history etc. and then allow multiple reports - by class, or by person or by date.

I commonly see excel databases which attempt to track training but it never seems to quite do it justice.

[Zeeshan]

Dear Simon,

If I understood correctly, I have something like what you have asked to share.

Attached is the same that contains the structure of documents being used by us for planning and recording training activities in our company.

 Training_Doc_Structure.doc   49KB   653 downloads


Regards:
Zeeshan.

[Simon]

Thanks Cathy and Zeeshan. I think a database is good and probably the best solution for control, but in terms of useability for the factory and also for capturing training activity, reviews, comments and the important trainer and rainee signatures and dates it is not as flexible or valuable if you ever need to provide eveidence of training e.g. after an accident.

Regarding the documents Zeeshan, thanks. Can you send any examles of checklists rather than the top level.

Regards,
Simon

[Charles.C]

Dear Zeeshan,

Interesting document. Thks.

I remember extracting the meanings of ATP and FSTL (not faster than light ) previously but now you hv created another one - What is a HOD please ?

Rgds / Charles.C

[Mike Carr]

Hello Simon

Found facilty to track the progress of staff, (in a progress report) and identify users who haven't undertaken training, it just made compliance dead easy from a food safety point of view.
Management Suite

Mike

[Zeeshan]

@ Simon:

Dear Simon, would you please elaborate what type of checklist you are talking about? .

Your thinking about usefulness of training records is impressive. Actually most of our focus, in general, is to collect evidences for the audit purpose instead of focusing on improvement in effectiveness of training process and improvement in performance of the trainee. Focus should be on bridging the gaps (Competency standard<--> Actual results of evaluation during and after training)+(lacking in training methods, material and environment).

If this gap is monitored and management through a database, training process could be managed and continually improved more efficiently and effectively. I am not currently working on such a database but I think integral part of such database would be:

1- Information of employees [Names, Area of working (high-risk/low risk), Existing Competency levels, previous evaluaiton results, reporting level etc.]

2- Standard Training Material references [with revision number so that improvement in material is traceable and controllable]

Database should be such that can generate following reports as a minimum:
1- Individual employee competency gaps and progress.
2- Department/Function-wise competency gaps and progress.

Database should also have a link to the number of incidents, accidents and non-conformity that are concerned with the area and personnel so that food safety team get sufficient support while analyzing lacking in systems and processes esp training process.

@ Charles.C

Thanks for compliments and sorry for using unexplained abbreviations.

ATP = Annual Training Plan
FSTL = Food Safety Team Leader
HOD = Head of Department

Regards:
Zeeshan.

[Charles.C]

Dear Zeeshan,

Ahh, thanks.

Seems to me that Pakistan has created an enviable vocabulary of acronymns. I haven't met HOD before although it seems too logical not to be used elsewhere.

Rgds / Charles.C

[Abdul Qudoos]

Me, i follow effective simple training record keeping system:

1) At the end of year i make training schedule for the next year with

Subject of training, Area need to be trained (department), month and internal/external training.

2) Follow the above accordingly, arrange a date in the month, issue circular before 15 days.

3) At the day Attendance be taken with attendees signature, presentation/slideshow, and at last feedback. All these prints punched and kept in a folder - as a training record for the year.

[Simon]

Dear Zeeshan,

Ahh, thanks.

Seems to me that Pakistan has created an enviable vocabulary of acronymns. I haven't met HOD before although it seems too logical not to be used elsewhere.

Rgds / Charles.C

HOD = Head of Department

Me, i follow effective simple training record keeping system:

1) At the end of year i make training schedule for the next year with

Subject of training, Area need to be trained (department), month and internal/external training.

2) Follow the above accordingly, arrange a date in the month, issue circular before 15 days.

3) At the day Attendance be taken with attendees signature, presentation/slideshow, and at last feedback. All these prints punched and kept in a folder - as a training record for the year.

Thanks Abdul, that's good for group training, but I was thinking more of finding a suitable training planning and recording system where for example a department has 40 machines and then there are say 5 Standard Operating Procedures per machine. How do you plan your training and record it in a simple way that also provides enough detail to be meaningful and provide due diligence.

I have been playing around and will post when I have it finished.

Regards,
Simon

[Abdul Qudoos]

Thanks Abdul, that's good for group training, but I was thinking more of finding a suitable training planning and recording system where for example a department has 40 machines and then there are say 5 Standard Operating Procedures per machine. How do you plan your training and record it in a simple way that also provides enough detail to be meaningful and provide due diligence.

I have been playing around and will post when I have it finished.

Regards,
Simon

Greetings Simon,

Seems to be little difficult, planning will be difficult at the first time once started it will be easier to follow and record,

40 machines and 5 SOP's per machine - it depends on how many operators, supervisors and workers working on, training batch size? i will make a standard form machinery audit/inspection, simple 1 page SOP per machine with steps 1, 2, 3... and may be a 1 page flow diagram for each machine and with a note for other 4 SOP and train them, distribute the copies and record in a simply way by the distribution list.

When you finished please post it i want to see it will be very helpful to everyone.

[Simon]

Greetings Simon,

Seems to be little difficult, planning will be difficult at the first time once started it will be easier to follow and record,

40 machines and 5 SOP's per machine - it depends on how many operators, supervisors and workers working on, training batch size? i will make a standard form machinery audit/inspection, simple 1 page SOP per machine with steps 1, 2, 3... and may be a 1 page flow diagram for each machine and with a note for other 4 SOP and train them, distribute the copies and record in a simply way by the distribution list.

When you finished please post it i want to see it will be very helpful to everyone.

Thanks for ou input Abdul, I will post it when ready. A couple of weeks.

Regards,
Simon

[kaz]

Hi all
Attached is a basic excel spreadsheet I use to track training throughout our company and a copy of the sign off sheet when training has been completed. Training needs are identified depending on job descriptions/departments, results of previous training assesment and company induction requirements
Hope this helps

Attached Files

•  Quality_training_completed_2010_example.xls   62.5KB   414 downloads
•  training_log_blank.doc   40.5KB   312 downloads

[AS NUR]

thanks Kaz for the good template

[Simon]

Thanks Kaz, I've nearly finished and will post next week. I bet you can't wait.

Regards,
Simon

[Eya]

Hi everybody,

Hope the attached file help.

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•  Training_Calendar____2010.xls   28.5KB   322 downloads

[Simon]

Hi everybody,

Hope the attached file help.

Thanks for sharing Asra, that's some schedule and will take a lot of time and effort to maintain up to date. Well done.

Regards,
Simon

[Madam A. D-tor]

Dear Simon,


Why don't you use a skill/training matrix?
I am sure that you know what this is, but I have tried to make an example and have attached it.  Book1.xls   21.5KB   188 downloads

Ofcourse skill/training matrices are hard to maintain and teamleaders or HODs must be disciplinary. Also it is needed to evaluate the workers more often. Especially when a worker just started to join the company.

I have seen these matrices in several variations and I know that it can work if it gets enough attention.

For not production workers it is easier to maintain these matrices. E.g. for Quality manager or office employee.

Edited by Madam A. D-tor, 01 March 2010 - 10:07 AM.

[Zeeshan]

Dear Eya and Madam A. D-tor !

Thanks for sharing your documents.

@ Eya,

How do you select the exact personnel/individuals from the focus group? I mean to say whether their manager or supervisor suggest the names or any senior independent manager analyze the training need for particular persons?

Regards:
Zeeshan

[Simon]

I'm attaching some documents I've been working on.

This is the top level matrix used for tracking training for each individual.

 New_training_template.xls   30KB   334 downloads

Here are some example records that also provide for ongoing review.

 Example_Training_Record_SSOW.doc   35KB   315 downloads

 Example_Training_Record.doc   34.5KB   271 downloads

Obviously there is a documented procedure that is related to each training element, but I've not attached that.

This is what I've arrived at based on it being comprehensive enough to provide due diligence, being easy to track progress without hopefully it being to difficult to operate. Although that is not easy when dealing with this subject.

Comments welcome.

Regards,
Simon

[Eya]

Dear Eya and Madam A. D-tor !

Thanks for sharing your documents.

@ Eya,

How do you select the exact personnel/individuals from the focus group? I mean to say whether their manager or supervisor suggest the names or any senior independent manager analyze the training need for particular persons?

Regards:
Zeeshan

Good question, The focus group is determine by the area owner (managers/supervisors) the only thing we are after is no individual should have two or more focus group. For instance if one operator is already in the SAnitation group he should not be included in the Pest control group the objective of this focus group is for operator to be expert in one field by doing this he will be the one empowered to teach other operator verbally. The other training like GMP and HACCP it is common and everybody should know about it.

[Simon]

Sorry Madam A. D-tor I missed your post. Too busy working on mine. Although yours isn't quite right for me I like it better and have taken the completion date idea. Actually ours are quite similar.

Thanks for sharing.

Regards,
Simon

[lance]

Answering my own posts again.

I found the attached document which gives quite useful guidance on the purpose of training record and how it should be used. I'm not sure about the actually training record section as it does not allow for regular reviews. It helps me though.

Regards,
Simon

 personal_training_record.pdf   80.98KB   733 downloads

this is a copy of a training doc that i have used in the past you can change to fit your location


Lance

Attached Files

•  Training Calender Model.xls   29KB   262 downloads

[Muhammad Afzal]

Dear Mr. Zeeshan,

Thank, nice example for new employee to give the understadning the documents structure that are implement in the organization.

Dear Simon,

If I understood correctly, I have something like what you have asked to share.

Attached is the same that contains the structure of documents being used by us for planning and recording training activities in our company.

 Training_Doc_Structure.doc   49KB   653 downloads


Regards:
Zeeshan.