Has anybody Checked ISO22002-1?

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Has anybody Checked ISO22002-1?

Started by excellens, Mar 09 2010 02:59 PM

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 02:59 PM

Hi,

I'm checking the info abour the release of ISO22002-1. Has anybody had the chance of looking at it?

What's the difference with PAS220?

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 03:11 PM

Ken posted this:

I've had a chance to read the standard and it is based on BS PAS 220:2008. I think this must the start of a series which specifies pre-requesites for different sectors of the food industry to expand 7.2.3 of ISO 22000. If so we can expect to see more over time (anyone know of others under development?).
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 03:13 PM

Hi,

I'm checking the info abour the release of ISO22002-1. Has anybody had the chance of looking at it?

What's the difference with PAS220?

Regards

Excel

From what I know it's just the same except you substitute ISO22002-1 for PAS220 throughout. Content is the same.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 04:23 PM

Confirmed,

Contents are EXACTLY the same

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 02:58 AM

Confirmed,

Contents are EXACTLY the same

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And I would expect PAS 220 to be withdrawn as a consequence, after all an ISO Technical Specification has more credibility than a Publicly Available Specification from BSI. Since PAS 220 is more expensive I can't see them selling too many more.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 03:13 AM

Tony,

It's also easier to refer to a ISO/TS in the documents, than to a PAS, so definitively we are looking at the end of PAS220.

At the end, a PAS is approved by 50% and the TS by 75% of TC34

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 03:37 AM

Hi,

see the attached content page

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Erasmo · Answer 7

I just don’t understand:

When ISO-22000 was a draft, a lot of people that were working on the standard mention that they want harmonization in the food chain… “FINALLY a food standard for the whole food chain…!!!!”

And it was true! – But now they are writing specifications for food manufacturing!!! We are moving in the opposite direction, and now (for some reason) we need to be “so specific”.

I remember one time one person said: “ISO-22000 does not mention allergens, it is a good thing that PAS 220 includes it” - - Really? I thing he forgot clause 7.2.3 g (Measures to prevent cross contamination).

Also, I think a lot of people that were pushing PAS 220 forgot the ISO 72 Guide… “No specification / performance levels in a management system," NEVER.

I think that’s why a quality consultant (she is a friend of mine) always tell me: “people in the food sector are so peculiar”

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 04:04 AM

I just don’t understand:

When ISO-22000 was a draft, a lot of people that were working on the standard mention that they want harmonization in the food chain… “FINALLY a food standard for the whole food chain…!!!!”

And it was true! – But now they are writing specifications for food manufacturing!!! We are moving in the opposite direction, and now (for some reason) we need to be “so specific”.

I remember one time one person said: “ISO-22000 does not mention allergens, it is a good thing that PAS 220 includes it” - - Really? I thing he forgot clause 7.2.3 g (Measures to prevent cross contamination).