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Posted 08 May 2020 - 01:51 PM

Hi Sir/Madam

Could you please help this?

 

Now that we have to cover all clauses of requirements in BRCGS Food Safety Standard Issue 8 in the internal audit programme, why the clause 3.4.1 emphasize the information below:

 

At a minimum, the scope of the internal audit programme shall include the:
•  HACCP or food safety plan, including the activities to implement it (e.g. supplier approval, corrective
actions and verification)
•  prerequisite programmes (e.g. hygiene, pest control)
•  food defence and food fraud prevention plans
•  procedures implemented to achieve the Standard.
 
The information mentioned covers all clauses acutally.
 
But how should we understand the "At a minimum"? Are there any other requirements we still cover in internal audit?
 
Thanks a lot!
 
Nathan


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Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:52 PM

It's up to you if you want to include other things in your internal audit schedule - for example I've seen labs, health & safety, environmental systems etc included in one large master schedule. In effect the clause is written in a way that doesn't limit you to the mandatory bits.
The specific requirement of the standard is perhaps most clear in the Interpretation Guide. which notes that the schedule must include "all aspects of the food safety and quality management system".  



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Posted 09 May 2020 - 09:56 AM

This may also include animal welfare, importing country requirements as relevant or other customer specific requirements.



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Posted 11 May 2020 - 02:37 AM

Your Internal Audit program scope may also depend on your risk assessment. I have attached BRC Guide for Internal Audits.

 

Hope this helps.

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Posted 11 May 2020 - 03:00 AM

Interpretation
 
3.4.1 Internal audit programme
 
Internal audit programme The primary role of an internal audit programme is to provide an ongoing assessment to ensure that the site is following the wrien procedures and methods of working dened in its quality system. The scope of internal audits needs to be established and must ensure that all aspects of the food safety and quality system, including the HACCP programme, prerequisite programmes, policies, documentation, hygiene and production, are audited at least annually.
 
All the internal audits should not be conducted on a single day, nor should they cover all aspects of the Standard. The Standard states that at least four dierent audit dates should occur each year. Each date can be used to audit dierent aspects of the site’s systems that have been implemented to comply with the Standard. A once-a-year check against all the requirements may be of value as a gap analysis when preparing for an audit, but is insucient to cover the full requirements of an internal audit programme as it will not provide the depth of assessment or level of condence required.
 
The site must evaluate the risk inherent in each section and determine the frequency of the audits for that specic section or activity accordingly. For example, the site should be aware of the consequences of not complying with its own systems, which could lead to hazards not being identied in a timely manner. Frequency may also be inuenced by known issues within the company, best practice or customer requirements. The site must therefore have a schedule or programme of internal audits to ensure that individual sections of the process, documentation or production are scheduled for dierent, predened audit dates throughout the year.
 
Where a site is part of a multi-site company, and the company conducts annual corporate food safety audits, it is acceptable for this annual audit to be incorporated into the internal audit schedule. However, additional internal audits that look at specic parts of the food safety and quality system, and compliance with the Standard, should be scheduled throughout the rest of the year. The frequency of these audits will still be based on risk.
 
For seasonal production, particularly when the season is very short (e.g. 4 weeks or less), the site must have in place a system for the management of start-up processes. Therefore, internal audits should start before the season commences. For example, the HACCP programme should be reviewed to ensure that it is up to date and appropriate for the forthcoming production; that hygiene and fabrication are correct; and that sta are appropriately trained. The remaining areas of the internal audit programme should be covered throughout the season. Care should be taken to ensure that the requirements that pertain to those seasonal activities are audited appropriately (e.g. that systems are checked when in operation).
 
The most common way of completing an internal audit is by taking documented procedures and work instructions and comparing them with the actual working practices and records.
The use of an external consultant (e.g. by small sites) is acceptable, providing the internal audit programme is scheduled throughout the year and not in a single block of activity.


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Posted 11 May 2020 - 06:34 AM

Hi Nathan,

 

:welcome: 

 

Welcome to the IFSQN forums.

 

To add to the useful and valid comments by previous posters, the clause is emphasizing the need to cover the prescribed areas. 

As a comparison, other standards (such as IFS) may have additional requirements for:

– customer focus

– environmental responsibility

– sustainability

– ethics and personnel responsibility

Also note BRC clause 3.4.4: In addition to the internal audit programme, there shall be a separate programme of documented inspections to ensure that the factory environment and processing equipment are maintained in a suitable condition for food production.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony



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Posted 12 May 2020 - 01:29 PM

 

Interpretation
 
3.4.1 Internal audit programme
 
Internal audit programme The primary role of an internal audit programme is to provide an ongoing assessment to ensure that the site is following the wrien procedures and methods of working dened in its quality system. The scope of internal audits needs to be established and must ensure that all aspects of the food safety and quality system, including the HACCP programme, prerequisite programmes, policies, documentation, hygiene and production, are audited at least annually.
 
All the internal audits should not be conducted on a single day, nor should they cover all aspects of the Standard. The Standard states that at least four dierent audit dates should occur each year. Each date can be used to audit dierent aspects of the site’s systems that have been implemented to comply with the Standard. A once-a-year check against all the requirements may be of value as a gap analysis when preparing for an audit, but is insucient to cover the full requirements of an internal audit programme as it will not provide the depth of assessment or level of condence required.
 
The site must evaluate the risk inherent in each section and determine the frequency of the audits for that specic section or activity accordingly. For example, the site should be aware of the consequences of not complying with its own systems, which could lead to hazards not being identied in a timely manner. Frequency may also be inuenced by known issues within the company, best practice or customer requirements. The site must therefore have a schedule or programme of internal audits to ensure that individual sections of the process, documentation or production are scheduled for dierent, predened audit dates throughout the year.
 
Where a site is part of a multi-site company, and the company conducts annual corporate food safety audits, it is acceptable for this annual audit to be incorporated into the internal audit schedule. However, additional internal audits that look at specic parts of the food safety and quality system, and compliance with the Standard, should be scheduled throughout the rest of the year. The frequency of these audits will still be based on risk.
 
For seasonal production, particularly when the season is very short (e.g. 4 weeks or less), the site must have in place a system for the management of start-up processes. Therefore, internal audits should start before the season commences. For example, the HACCP programme should be reviewed to ensure that it is up to date and appropriate for the forthcoming production; that hygiene and fabrication are correct; and that sta are appropriately trained. The remaining areas of the internal audit programme should be covered throughout the season. Care should be taken to ensure that the requirements that pertain to those seasonal activities are audited appropriately (e.g. that systems are checked when in operation).
 
The most common way of completing an internal audit is by taking documented procedures and work instructions and comparing them with the actual working practices and records.
The use of an external consultant (e.g. by small sites) is acceptable, providing the internal audit programme is scheduled throughout the year and not in a single block of activity.

 

Thank you very much. Yes i have checked the relevant explainations in this guide,  but still find no suitbale answers. Many thanks again!



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Posted 12 May 2020 - 01:37 PM

Hi Nathan,

 

:welcome:

 

Welcome to the IFSQN forums.

 

To add to the useful and valid comments by previous posters, the clause is emphasizing the need to cover the prescribed areas. 

As a comparison, other standards (such as IFS) may have additional requirements for:

– customer focus

– environmental responsibility

– sustainability

– ethics and personnel responsibility

Also note BRC clause 3.4.4: In addition to the internal audit programme, there shall be a separate programme of documented inspections to ensure that the factory environment and processing equipment are maintained in a suitable condition for food production.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony

Thank you Tony!

So the clause is not just mentioning about the BRCGS standard itself, but also considering about other possible joint systems. And to BRCGS, the clause is telling us that no matter what kind of internal audit frame we design, we have to cover all requirements it refers. But i wonder why it just ranks and emphasizes the four parts. If we read the four pasrts in depth, we will find that the four parts covers almost all of requirements of the standard. So it there any special intention to these just four parts?



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Posted 12 May 2020 - 01:45 PM

Thank you Tony!

So the clause is not just mentioning about the BRCGS standard itself, but also considering about other possible joint systems. And to BRCGS, the clause is telling us that no matter what kind of internal audit frame we design, we have to cover all requirements it refers. But i wonder why it just ranks and emphasizes the four parts. If we read the four pasrts in depth, we will find that the four parts covers almost all of requirements of the standard. So it there any special intention to these just four parts?

This (indicated in red) is the main point here - BRC wants you to cover all of the requirements of the standard ;)

The section is saying that you can do other things in your audit schedule (as indicated by my previous post and the suggestions from Tony-C and kurmy), but the standard requires that your audits cover the requirements of the standard in their entirety, hence this is what is emphasised.

The standard is less interested in what other audits you might be doing, as this doesn't impact on the scope of your certification and (theoretically) doesn't/shouldn't impact food safety or quality either.



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Posted 13 May 2020 - 04:00 AM

Thank you Tony!

So the clause is not just mentioning about the BRCGS standard itself, but also considering about other possible joint systems. And to BRCGS, the clause is telling us that no matter what kind of internal audit frame we design, we have to cover all requirements it refers. But i wonder why it just ranks and emphasizes the four parts. If we read the four pasrts in depth, we will find that the four parts covers almost all of requirements of the standard. So it there any special intention to these just four parts?

 

Hi Nathan,

The clause is BRC specific, I gave you examples (as did pHruit & karma) of other areas that may be included in an audit programme. I think the areas are mentioned to provide some emphasis, I wouldn't get too hung up on it  :uhm:

Kind regards,

 

Tony



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Posted 07 July 2020 - 09:06 AM

If BRC has been awarded to a company, any internal audit shall includes all the clause and also it is mentioned it also may includes the regulation. thanks 



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Posted 16 September 2021 - 02:26 PM

Hello,

 

Am I right in saying that we have to audit all the sections from the BRC throughout the year. And not throughout the audit year?

 

We have our BRC audit in September. But our schedule runs from March to March which means that we wont audit all the sections before our BRC audit.

 

Hope this make sense. 

 

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Posted 16 September 2021 - 02:46 PM

Hello,

 

Am I right in saying that we have to audit all the sections from the BRC throughout the year. And not throughout the audit year?

 

We have our BRC audit in September. But our schedule runs from March to March which means that we wont audit all the sections before our BRC audit.

 

Hope this make sense. 

 

Regards,

Oskar

You're entirely free to set the start and end of the 12-month period comprising the year - for many years I ran my audit schedule 1st July to 30th June. As long as you're up to date according to your own schedule then there is no problem whatsoever. For those areas not yet covered, the auditor can, and probably will, dip into the preceding year's schedule.



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Posted 17 September 2021 - 07:02 AM

You're entirely free to set the start and end of the 12-month period comprising the year - for many years I ran my audit schedule 1st July to 30th June. As long as you're up to date according to your own schedule then there is no problem whatsoever. For those areas not yet covered, the auditor can, and probably will, dip into the preceding year's schedule.

Many thanks for clarifying and confirming what I thought.



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Posted 23 May 2024 - 12:02 PM

The internal audits were performed quarterly, half yearly and yearly. The frequency of audits was based

on the risks associated with them as documented in the Internal Audit Risk Assessment (FMT/SOP/33J)

 

Dt. 2024-01-01. While conducting the risk assessment, previous audit performance was not considered

 

can anyone help to close this Non conformance



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Posted 24 May 2024 - 03:29 AM

Hi SRIKIRANRM,

 

For clarity, I have quoted the relevant requirments of BRCGS Global Standard Food Safety (Issue 9) Section 3.4 Internal audits below.

 

Clause 3.4.1

There shall be a scheduled programme of internal audits.

At a minimum, the programme shall include at least four different audit dates spread throughout the year. The frequency at which each activity is audited shall be established

in relation to the risks associated with the activity and previous audit performance. All activities that form a part of the site’s food safety and quality systems, including those relevant to food safety, authenticity, legality and quality, shall be covered at least once each year.

etc…..

 

Note that BRCGS Guidance states: Good practice is to complete a review of the internal audit programme; for example, looking at the outputs and trends, and any insight these provide. A summary of the programme and results will also be required for the management review meeting (see clause 1.1.4).

 

I am assuming that this is not a first certification audit as if that was the case you might not have had many previous audit performances to consider and the auditor may have been more lenient on this point.

 

Without more details, it is difficult to know if you need to look at the root cause of this non-conformance. Your corrective action to close out the non-conformance could be as simple as to change your procedure to state audit frequency is based on an assessment of risks associated with the activity and previous audit performance. A new audit schedule should also to be provided to show that you have considered both the risks associated with the activity and previous audit performance. You might want also include periodic reviews of the internal audit programme in your amended procedure.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony



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Posted 24 May 2024 - 06:55 AM

Dear Tony

 

Thanks for your support



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Posted 24 May 2024 - 10:54 AM

what is the best guide to develop procedures related to BRC version 9 standard  & IFS standard



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Posted 24 May 2024 - 12:30 PM

what is the best guide to develop procedures related to BRC version 9 standard  & IFS standard

 

Hi SRIKIRANRM,

 

BRCGS offer the Global Standard Food Safety (Issue 9) Interpretation Guideline

 

There are also guidelines for other BRCGS Standards.

 

For IFS look in their document hub, there are some guides available.

 

IFSQN offer a range of Food Safety Manuals for GFSI-recognized Certification Programmes here

 

The most popular packages include BRCGS Food, BRCGS Food & FSMA, SQF Food, SQF Food & FSMA and FSSC 22000 Food.

 

All include technical support until certification is achieved.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tony





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