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AK!

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Posted 27 July 2021 - 02:12 AM

How do you document the MSS paperwork when you are short on staffing and can not get MSS complete in the scheduled time? We are trying catch up almost every week while trying to find employees. 


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Posted 27 July 2021 - 11:50 AM

you need to write a deviation that is ongoing until fully staffed and trained, explaining why things aren't getting done

 

make sure that the things NOT being done are of the monthly variety, and not daily-----that's next to impossible to explain away

 

If you find that you cannot perform the DAILY sanitation needs, then you should implore the business to understand just how crucial that is

 

Have you looked into contract cleaners to fill the void?


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Posted 27 July 2021 - 12:46 PM

I've struggled with this for a while. In some manufacturers, sanitation is the lowest rung on the ladder. The good ones get snatched up by operations, the bad ones linger, and the rest quit.

What standard are you under? Are the sanitation procedures in your plant critical (i.e. cross contamination, pathogen control, etc.)?

Paying a wage that is sufficient to maintain staff falls under management commitment. In the immediate, follow Scampi's suggestions. Your next step, would be to justify a pay increase to ownership/upper management.


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Posted 27 July 2021 - 02:58 PM

A. Change your schedule.

B. Follow what Scampi said.


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Posted 27 July 2021 - 04:24 PM

Does anyone have a deviation template that has been successfully accepted for audit purposes? We are BRC but I'm sure there's not much difference between the schemes in this matter.


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Posted 27 July 2021 - 04:33 PM

My manager and I had the rug pulled out from under us as far as wages for sanitors go. The COO dropped the wages by $2.50 without even telling us while we were in the middle of hiring. We've been fighting it for a year. On top of that there's other nearby food manufacturers paying $5 more per hour but management doesn't use them in their wage comparison. On top of that we work from 5pm to 3:30am which obviously is not a desired shift. On top of that they've taken away some benefits and don't include the sanitors in important communications. Add the pandemic on top of this and you have a very complicated situation trying to get new employees. Wow, as I write this I'm blown away that I still work there.


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Posted 27 July 2021 - 04:54 PM

Sounds like it's time for you to brush up your resume!!!

 

Only desperate companies do stunts like you've said------------run, run away!


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Posted 27 July 2021 - 05:57 PM

My manager and I had the rug pulled out from under us as far as wages for sanitors go. The COO dropped the wages by $2.50 without even telling us while we were in the middle of hiring. We've been fighting it for a year. On top of that there's other nearby food manufacturers paying $5 more per hour but management doesn't use them in their wage comparison. On top of that we work from 5pm to 3:30am which obviously is not a desired shift. On top of that they've taken away some benefits and don't include the sanitors in important communications. Add the pandemic on top of this and you have a very complicated situation trying to get new employees. Wow, as I write this I'm blown away that I still work there.

That sucks. See if the production employees can do more post-op. FDA or USDA? I assume FDA b/c USDA would have been all over that.


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Posted 28 July 2021 - 12:58 PM

I agree with Scampi.  Brush up your resume.  Now is a great time to find another job.  Everyone is hiring!  It is also a time to grow your salary.. look for a company that appreciates your experience and will compensate you accordingly.


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