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Best Answer , 18 November 2022 - 01:48 AM

ohh i think i got it.

 

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Posted 15 November 2022 - 01:47 AM

Hello all,

i hope you find this email very well

 

I want to ask you guys, regarding new guidance of environmental monitoring in FSSC 22000 regulation (herewith i attached)

 

When i see this new regulation, can you guys help me, whats is the different from the before version regarding this environmental monitoring.

 

Is there any point that has been added to this regulation?

Please let me know

 

 

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Posted 15 November 2022 - 02:21 AM

Hello all,

i hope you find this email very well

 

I want to ask you guys, regarding new guidance of environmental monitoring in FSSC 22000 regulation (herewith i attached)

 

When i see this new regulation, can you guys help me, whats is the different from the before version regarding this environmental monitoring.

 

Is there any point that has been added to this regulation?

Please let me know

 

 

Terima kasih (Thank You),

Best regards,

Rafif Utama Putra

Note that the introductory Guidance material on EMPG with respect to drains is, as stated, potentially contrary to FSIS.


Kind Regards,

 

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Posted 15 November 2022 - 03:44 AM

So we need to check the microbial near the drains (environment monitoring for zone non-food contact), using air sampler? for monitoring Listeria spp.?

 

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Posted 15 November 2022 - 04:13 AM

and i want to ask, what if we only mention in our program, like only the area, for example = monitoring in filling area from EC and YM, monthly.

 

not mention the position of the area that we monitoring, like near the drain, or the table, or on the pipe.



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Posted 15 November 2022 - 05:49 PM

The way we do it where I work is that we have a list of places and equipment to swab with a photo showing the location or piece of equipment and the frequency of sampling. That way there is nothing left out and nothing is left open to interpretation but it is a very clear procedure.



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Posted 16 November 2022 - 01:09 AM

Can you share of risk assesment environmental monitoring do you have to me?

or just share the table without their content

 

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Posted 16 November 2022 - 05:39 AM

Can you share of risk assesment environmental monitoring do you have to me?

or just share the table without their content

 

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Hi RUP,

 

The EMPG specifics often relate to the Product/Process.

 

Can try browsing through these varied scenarios -

 

http://www.ifsqn.com...ls/#entry100060

http://www.ifsqn.com...am/#entry119334


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Posted 16 November 2022 - 08:20 AM

Based on this guidance (attached), we should define areas or zones of risk related to the different hazards.

Is this a mandatory? or we can just only define by hygienic zoning.

 

 

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Posted 16 November 2022 - 08:21 AM

Sorry, herewith i attached

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Posted 17 November 2022 - 05:33 AM

Based on this guidance (attached), we should define areas or zones of risk related to the different hazards.

Is this a mandatory? or we can just only define by hygienic zoning.

 

 

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Hi RUP,

 

It typically depends on the exact text in the Standard (not the Guidance). ie If there is no specific requirement for "zones" in the Standard the requirements are open to alternative "interpretations". Of course, it is necessary to be auditorially prepared to justify that your interpretation fulfils the Standard's requirements.


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Posted 18 November 2022 - 01:48 AM   Best Answer

ohh i think i got it.

 

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