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#1 bbertram

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 04:21 PM

Hello all,

 

According to your food defense plans, if someone breaks into your facility (or is trying to), how long should it be before they are stopped?



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Posted 16 November 2018 - 08:12 PM

Hello all,

 

According to your food defense plans, if someone breaks into your facility (or is trying to), 

 

It is a Food Defense Plan failure as soon as it is noticed that someone has already broken into your facility, however if someone is observed "trying to break into the facility", is a confirmation that the Food Defense plan is intact and functional.

 

 

how long should it be before they are stopped?

Should be stopped, as soon as detected and then assessments should be done on the product and facility of the extent of the potential damages that are incurred. 



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Posted 16 November 2018 - 08:56 PM

Shoot them on the spot. Be sure to clean up.


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Posted 17 November 2018 - 02:08 AM

Glenn,

 

Pretty much. Depending on Stand Your Ground laws in your state :)

 

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Posted 17 November 2018 - 02:22 AM

Hello all,

 

According to your food defense plans, if someone breaks into your facility (or is trying to), how long should it be before they are stopped?

 

Even with some of the fun above, It's a good question.

I guess the answer would be "immediately", but that all depends on how "robust" your internal security team, if you have one, is.

In my facility, if they tried to piggyback in on an employee, the answer would be as quickly as the guard could get his fat and crippled ass out of his chair and run him down. Which would be never.
Then it would take a good 5 minutes of a frenzied run for any "attacker" to access an area of the facility where the person could reasonably "contaminate" a bulk storage area, if he had the keys to the storage containers.
In the absence of that, it might take him a couple of minutes to run to the nearest production line and sprinkle ricin on the closest finished product before packaging.
At that point, the attacker would be caught in the building, a hundred or so people would be barring his escape and the production lines would have been shut down.

 

It's just not a realistic scenario.

 

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 12:09 PM

Thank you, all, for your input!

 

Does anyone know of any legal documentation that could help support our goal of how long it should be before someone is stopped?



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Posted 05 December 2018 - 09:56 PM

I know of no "legal" requirement for time.
I would be very careful about setting a goal. In essence, you are setting policy and then will be held to account during an audit (if an auditor chose to do so), to show that your policy works.
 

Prevention of ingress should be your focus. Then training staff how to react if unauthorized personnel are detected should be second. 

 

Marshall







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